Explores the Ruy Lopez Cozio Defence opening (ECO C60). This defence is a hard one to find solid information on as it is the least explored of the Ruy Lopez variations.
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isolated d pawns are infamous for how not weak they are. Unless black can force a lot of exchanges, white 'accidentally' protects an isolated center pawn while he centralizes his peices. Meanwhile, the open lines greatly help the more mobile player, and the d pawn is hard to fix, it is mobile itself and participates in the attack.
by the way, jrobi, its hard to say what the best chess engine in the world is because they all have various strengths and weaknesses. A big reason why rybka performs well is not so much its engine but its excellent opening book. Fritz will beat rybka in brute force calculation, but this involves 'forward pruning' which means it will miss deep zugzwangs (relatively rare). Furthermore, all computers are not that great in methodical long manouvering positions which these really are.
this opening is very similar to a scotch, which i understand very well, although the bishop rarely is best on b5 in such positions. The more I look at this the more I think a way for white to 'improve' is to not play 2. Bb5 :).
thanks for getting back to me so soon. I only asked for the morphy defense because it seems like the best, and incidentally, also the most natural move for black. In fact, 3) …a6 is what i see most of playing the ruy lopez as white.
So um, I see a lot of trades that would leave black double pawned without anything near to back it up. Why doesn't white do this? It looks so rewarding.
hi jrobi, I've been watching your ruy lopez opening videos and was wondering whats wrong with black moving his pawn to A6 forcing the bishop back earlier in the opening?
Nothing is wrong with that at all – in fact it's another very popular variation of the Ruy Lopez. I plan on making a video on those variations in the near future. Thanks for checking out the vid!
Absolutely – it's a different variation of the Ruy Lopez which I plan on covering in another vid – but it's defnitely an option. Thanks for checking out this one!
as referring to your comment , i should say that i had learned chess from my father and one of his old book about chess:)
jrobi , thanks for videos anyway they are informative…i'm absolutely fan of sicilian defence but im trying to use other systems , such you explained in videos…great…
hi can any one tell me what is going to happen if in the C3 variation on his 8th move white capture the bishop with the knight instead of B pawn i mean he would have good pawn structure an isolated pawn at d4
As white I would play 4. d4, because if black exchanges on d4 that gives white a nicely centralized queen that can't be easily driven off, and if black tries to defend with 4. d4, f6 I would simply exchange pawns on e5, giving my queen the half open d file and moving part of the black king's pawn cover toward the center, discouraging a short castle.
Thaks for the vid! I'm starting to use the Cozio and have had a rough time of it. In my current game, white played 4) Ng5 and I had NO IDEA what to do. Anyobdy got suggestions???!!!
forgive me if I am not making any sence but when you go through the moves after white plays N C3 and the resulting line looked a bit like a combination between the sicilian dragon and tne roy lopez with out the black pawn on C5 good video though
Hey Jrobi, enjoying the videos – starting to learn a bit of opening theory for the first time, and must say I tend to learn more variant openings so this is a nice addition. Been playing with Grob's attack (1.g4) on the basis that I've always been a defensive player and need to learn some attacking strategies – you had a look into anything like that?
i hardly play 1.e4, but when i do and the opponent tradionally moves 1.e5, 2.Nc6, i ALWAYS play the Ruy Lopez. The reason it is the most studied and played opening is that there is no real way to defend it, i cant stress that enough. Personally, i wouldnt use this defense, (blocking opening for Q and B), but i do enjoy watching your videos. I do seem to look at the game in similar ways as yourself
@MrsPoker you cannot castle through check, into check or out of check. However if you block check, you can castle as long as you obey the rules i just mentioned
@6:49 you leave the variation saying white is in a better position, but the knf4 creates a nice fork and continuation for black… Do black's chances sputter out after that?
hey can you post a link of free chess engine download!! i really wonder when i analize with chess .com that how i missed those movesetc. also their comments per move is helpful!! is their any engine fo me to analize on my own computer? thanks!1
Disagree on the main line with 4.Nc3. Instead of 6.Nxd4, main move is 6.Nd5. For instance 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nge7 4. Nc3 g6 5. d4 exd4 6. Nd5 Bg7 7. Bg5 h6 8.Bf6 and white enjoys an advantage. Please get your facts right before posting such lectures.
I was analyzing lines for black because I hate doubling my pawns as black but it just seems weak. I think everyone should avoid this because a king pawn fianchettoed is eh at best and you take the weakened squares of fianchettoing. If you wanna avoid doubling pawns from ruby López I think Sicilian or Petrov are the best bet you could even play the modern defence
Thank You! Excellent!! 1700 player trying to work up back into 1750+ or even 1800. Been there a few times. This helps a LOT with a current game! May your opponents' resignations be many and often! 🙂
encountered this opening yesterday as white and after I played c3, oponent went straight f5 which tricked me, and after his solid game, he won. Wonder what would be the best response
isolated d pawns are infamous for how not weak they are. Unless black can force a lot of exchanges, white 'accidentally' protects an isolated center pawn while he centralizes his peices. Meanwhile, the open lines greatly help the more mobile player, and the d pawn is hard to fix, it is mobile itself and participates in the attack.
by the way, jrobi, its hard to say what the best chess engine in the world is because they all have various strengths and weaknesses. A big reason why rybka performs well is not so much its engine but its excellent opening book. Fritz will beat rybka in brute force calculation, but this involves 'forward pruning' which means it will miss deep zugzwangs (relatively rare). Furthermore, all computers are not that great in methodical long manouvering positions which these really are.
this opening is very similar to a scotch, which i understand very well, although the bishop rarely is best on b5 in such positions. The more I look at this the more I think a way for white to 'improve' is to not play 2. Bb5 :).
Seems like the best option for black when faced with ruy lopez
what about the the morphy defense? an immidiate a6?
Thanks for checking out the vid – I will be looking into all the primary variations of the Ruy.
It definitely has merit, and an element of surprise as it's not played substantially.
Interesting comment!
thanks for getting back to me so soon. I only asked for the morphy defense because it seems like the best, and incidentally, also the most natural move for black. In fact, 3) …a6 is what i see most of playing the ruy lopez as white.
I have a list on my site (link is on my channel page). Thanks for checking out the vid!
So um, I see a lot of trades that would leave black double pawned without anything near to back it up. Why doesn't white do this? It looks so rewarding.
hi jrobi, I've been watching your ruy lopez opening videos and was wondering whats wrong with black moving his pawn to A6 forcing the bishop back earlier in the opening?
Nothing is wrong with that at all – in fact it's another very popular variation of the Ruy Lopez. I plan on making a video on those variations in the near future. Thanks for checking out the vid!
I would like to watch a vid about the A6 response to the bishop move as well.
"Fianchetto" is developing a bishop to the second rank in front of the knight.
That's great Eagle! Keep me posted on how things go!
jrobi
couldnt the black play pawn to a6?
Absolutely – it's a different variation of the Ruy Lopez which I plan on covering in another vid – but it's defnitely an option. Thanks for checking out this one!
very prompt response.
Iv watched a good portion of your video's,
and just subscribed.
You've helped me beat my father 🙂
Keep up the great work.
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as referring to your comment , i should say that i had learned chess from my father and one of his old book about chess:)
jrobi , thanks for videos anyway they are informative…i'm absolutely fan of sicilian defence but im trying to use other systems , such you explained in videos…great…
yeah a like this video, coz i'm a ruy lopez maniac
would you mind sharing this link to the database?
hi can any one tell me what is going to happen if in the C3 variation on his 8th move white capture the bishop with the knight instead of B pawn i mean he would have good pawn structure an isolated pawn at d4
what the program u use to get help from the computer? ripcard or what are u saying?:P
rybka 3
As white I would play 4. d4, because if black exchanges on d4 that gives white a nicely centralized queen that can't be easily driven off, and if black tries to defend with 4. d4, f6 I would simply exchange pawns on e5, giving my queen the half open d file and moving part of the black king's pawn cover toward the center, discouraging a short castle.
Thaks for the vid! I'm starting to use the Cozio and have had a rough time of it. In my current game, white played 4) Ng5 and I had NO IDEA what to do. Anyobdy got suggestions???!!!
forgive me if I am not making any sence but when you go through the moves after white plays N C3 and the resulting line looked a bit like a combination between the sicilian dragon and tne roy lopez with out the black pawn on C5 good video though
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why not cover the white bishop taking the knight forcing double pawns and eliminating the sole pawn defender?
Hey Jrobi, enjoying the videos – starting to learn a bit of opening theory for the first time, and must say I tend to learn more variant openings so this is a nice addition. Been playing with Grob's attack (1.g4) on the basis that I've always been a defensive player and need to learn some attacking strategies – you had a look into anything like that?
Keep up the good work
i hardly play 1.e4, but when i do and the opponent tradionally moves 1.e5, 2.Nc6, i ALWAYS play the Ruy Lopez. The reason it is the most studied and played opening is that there is no real way to defend it, i cant stress that enough. Personally, i wouldnt use this defense, (blocking opening for Q and B), but i do enjoy watching your videos. I do seem to look at the game in similar ways as yourself
I played this once and won!!!!! PS it's a good variation, bit closed but still very good!
@krillansavillan it's a most played variation, i think, of Ruy Lopez
@MrsPoker you cannot castle through check, into check or out of check. However if you block check, you can castle as long as you obey the rules i just mentioned
@6:49 you leave the variation saying white is in a better position, but the knf4 creates a nice fork and continuation for black… Do black's chances sputter out after that?
White's bishop on c1 is covering the f4 square.
hey can you post a link of free chess engine download!! i really wonder when i analize with chess .com that how i missed those movesetc. also their comments per move is helpful!! is their any engine fo me to analize on my own computer? thanks!1
Vassily Smyslov played in 1975 3. g6 not the cozio line with 3..knight e7. Smyslov scored 3.5/4 the only draw was against Westerinen
Saman Dell The bishop on C1 would take then.
Hey man! Thanks for posting such a great video. Definitely not a lot of material on this opening line.
Disagree on the main line with 4.Nc3. Instead of 6.Nxd4, main move is 6.Nd5. For instance 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nge7 4. Nc3 g6 5. d4 exd4 6. Nd5 Bg7 7. Bg5 h6 8.Bf6 and white enjoys an advantage. Please get your facts right before posting such lectures.
Stockfish 8 says Re1+ better than Qe2+
I'm here because I encounter this quite a lot. (I'm ~1500 on Chess.com) so people down here clearly like it.
I was analyzing lines for black because I hate doubling my pawns as black but it just seems weak. I think everyone should avoid this because a king pawn fianchettoed is eh at best and you take the weakened squares of fianchettoing. If you wanna avoid doubling pawns from ruby López I think Sicilian or Petrov are the best bet you could even play the modern defence
Thank You! Excellent!! 1700 player trying to work up back into 1750+ or even 1800. Been there a few times. This helps a LOT with a current game! May your opponents' resignations be many and often! 🙂
encountered this opening yesterday as white and after I played c3, oponent went straight f5 which tricked me, and after his solid game, he won. Wonder what would be the best response
4:10 Stockfish prefers Re1+ now and that's at depth 30.
Rye Lopez? 🤣
Great video!!